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Get a deal on Groupon …

July 16, 2012

I hadn’t noticed the slide in Groupon’s stock price … from the IPO price of around $25 to under $8 …  a drop of almost 70%.

Groupon is starting to look like one of its own deals …

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Source Business Week

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Uh oh: Groupon forced to revise its financial results again.

April 2, 2012

To refresh you memory …

Prepping for its IPO, Groupon had to cut its reported revenue in half to satisfy questions from the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Then, the company  IPO’d in November for $20 per share.   Last Friday the shares closed at $17.20.

What happened ?

Well first, according to the WSJ:

Groupon reported an unexpected loss of $37 million on revenue $506.5 million for its fourth quarter —  its first period as a public company.

The news triggered a selloff in the stock as investors had expected the company to post a profit.

To make matters worse, the loss was understated by $22.6 million … because auditors discovered that the company “ failed to set aside enough money for customer refunds.”

Oops.

Here’s the story:

Groupon offers discounted deals to its subscriber base, and then splits the value of the deal with the merchant that offered it.

For a $10 purchase at a sandwich shop, for example, Groupon might take $5 and give the rest to the merchant.

The company makes a point of telling users that refunds won’t be a hassle.

Groupon emphasizes something it calls “the Groupon Promise,” which means “if the experience using your Groupon ever lets you down, we’ll make it right or return your purchase.”

Groupon had more customers seeking refunds than it expected.

The company also said the higher rate of refunds has persisted in the first quarter ending March 31.

Also according to the WSJ: “The surprise announcement raised questions about the reliability of Groupon’s numbers.”

You think ?

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Amazon lifts LivingSocial’s kimono … and, it ain’t pretty.

February 3, 2012

Punch line: Lost $558 million  last year on $245 million revenue. Ouch.

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Excerpted from the Washington Business Journal

Amazon,  which invested in LivingSocial in late 2010, disclosed limited details of the daily deal company’s 2011 performance in its annual report filed with regulators.

Accounting Note

Accounting rules required that Amazon release Living Social’s essential financial data.

As explained in Amazon’s annual report, LivingSocial is recorded using the “equity method of accounting” – a method used when an investment “gives us the ability to exercise significant influence, but not control, over an investee.”

The threshold for that designation typically runs between 20 percent and 50 percent ownership. Amazon owns 31 percent of LivingSocial.

Under that accounting method, Amazon must include some condensed financial information about LivingSocial in its own financial reports

Even though the data was buried far down in Amazon’s annual report, the numbers quickly found their way into the press and produced a flurry of unwanted headlines

Amazon, which owns a little less than a third of the DC-based daily deal company, laid out LivingSocial’s numbers, showing a $558 million loss last year on $245 million revenue, with operating expenses of $686 million.

Daily deals is a manpower-intensive field crowded with competitors. LivingSocial has about 5,000 employees.

LivingSocial’s informally claims that much of that operating loss was incurred earlier in 2011, and narrowed later in the year as the company scaled back marketing expenses.

Also, part of the loss can be attributed to LivingSocial’s acquisition spree, which was paid for through a mix of cash and stock.

Still, the $558 million loss is much more red ink than LivingSocial observers had expected, and much less revenue.

In April, CEO Tim O’Shaughnessy said his company was on track to book $1 billion in revenue in 2011.

Oops.

Now that’s a markdown for you

Thanks to SMH for feeding the lead

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Groupon: “You’re check is in the mail” … not!

November 10, 2011

Though IPO investors disagree, I still think Groupon’s business model is suspect and market valuation is wacky.

Here’s the latest from the WSJ:

Rivals of Groupon  are threatening the daily deal site leader by offering quicker payment to merchants, potentially jeopardizing a key part of the company’s business model.

Groupon, which offers online deals for local merchants, keeps itself in cash by collecting money immediately when it sells its daily coupons to consumers while dragging out payments to the merchants over 60 days.

For instance, a hair salon might run a deal offering $100 of services for just $50 on Groupon’s website, which then keeps as much as half of the total collected and sends the remainder to the salon in three installments about 25 to 30 days apart.

“You want to get paid in full as quickly as possible.  We’re the ones that have to cover the cost of goods for giving away everything at half price,”

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Groupon pays merchants in installments of 33% over a period of 60 days

LivingSocial pays merchants their full share in 15 days.

Amazon Local, pays immediately.

Google Offers promises 80% of the merchant’s cut within four days, and the remainder over 90 days.

Thanks to SMH for feeding the lead …

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Today’s Deal: Groupon at 1/3 off … buy now?

October 20, 2011

Punch line: Groupon’s IPO was originally expected to value the three-year-old company at between $15 billion and $20 billion … now, the company is talking $12 billion … still a huge deal, but heading south

According to the WSJ …

In a stark comedown for what was expected to be one of the hottest stock offerings of the year, Groupon is scaling back plans for its public debut.

The Chicago company and its bankers will begin meeting with investors in the next few days to sell them on a deal that values the daily deals pioneer at less than $12 billion.

Groupon’s IPO was originally expected to value the three-year-old company at between $15 billion and $20 billion, according to people familiar with the matter.

The change comes in the wake of recent market volatility as well as several missteps by the company, the people said. Regulators have been scrutinizing Groupon’s accounting and the company was forced last month to change the way it books revenue.

Groupon plans to conduct its road show for investors next week.
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The size of the stock sale, expected to be completed in the next two weeks, could be $500 million to $700 million.

The small offering, which would represent well under 10% of the company’s outstanding shares, is meant to cut the amount of stock being sold, in hopes that more shares can be sold later at higher prices

As we’ve said before, these guys will rue the day they turned down Google’s $5.5 billion offer …

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For Groupon, suddenly, $5.6 billion is looking better …

October 19, 2011

Punch line: Groupon’s luster – and valuation – are starting to fade.  These guys will rue the day they sent Google packing.

According to the WSJ:

Last year, four mutual fund companies – including Growth Fund of America, T. Rowe Price and Fidelity Investments — invested in Groupon at a price that valued the entire company at $4.7 billion,

Then,  Groupon turned down an offer from Google reported to be just south of $6 billion?

At the time, Groupon was said to have potential IPO valuations ranging from $15 billion to as high as $30 billion.

But the U.S. IPO market has been largely dormant, the Securities and Exchange Commission has required more-conservative accounting from Groupon, and a top company executive has departed.

Some IPO analysts now predict a Groupon IPO, if completed, might value the company at $5 billion to $10 billion.

If the valuation keeps falling, some early-in funds may find themselves marking down the value of their holdings on their books.

Of course, I’m betting the under …

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